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4 - piles', Wdi tho miners aro not permitted , by tno operaiora 10 worn iuu uu. operators havo no control over tho de- mand' fir' coal. They can merely stand ready to produce and furnish It when the public rcqulrco and la willing to accept A. \It Is not true that the miners re- ceived an advance of 20 cants a ton In Wi, it Is not true that tho operators Talaod thjo price of coal 15 a ton In J9H, Op the contrary the prlco was reduced. \It Is not true, as Mr. Gompers states, that for .the last several years the .miners have averaged only 100 to HO .working tyys a ycar' 3Ieii' Lay Oft Voluntarily. 'It Is 'a fact, however und Mr. aoIK fcnvn nftrartainod It that virtually every bituminous mine In' the country ha8 on Its pay roll a substantial number of men who de- liberately layoff from one to three days a\ week when- - they havo an opportunity to worlc. \.Mr. Gompors states that the miners are demanding Bhortor working hours so that their work may be mado regu- lar Instead of Intermittent. How Is It poaslblo to effect such regulation? How can mines be worked when no cars nre available? How can mines bo worjted on days when mlno eldlnga and railroad yards nro blocked with loaded cars ' which tho public docs not need and will not buy? I \Mr. Oompcrs well knows that the public buys Its. coal only as It wants It, and It alwnya will. \Does Mr. -- Gompers think that a change from an eight hour day to a six t hour day will compel the public to buy Its coal far in advance of Its requtre-- I menta at tremendous advanced prices. : mado necessary by Increased pay for ; less work on the part of tho miners? i \The statements Issued by Mr. Goinp-or- s, the American Federation of Labor, and officials of tho' United Mlno Work- - era of America with respect to hours Qt work nnd earnings of miners have, in their entirety, boen grossly Inaccurate, mlsrcpresentatlve and misleading to the l public. . I ia...t..lHnl lnfmiatiiin nf thlft SO It. 1 OUIIKIUVUI imuifitM\\' - because of Its complexity, cannot be nc- - : ourately presented or anniyaeu in u public press.' It can, howovr, be pre- - sented to and, accurately analyzed by a ' propor tribunal which can call before It proper representatives of all Interested parties in order to secure detailed expla- nation of all tho ,olnts at Issue. The I operators stand-read- to present such ln- - formation on these subjects at any place f and at any time before such propor tr -- J bunal, as suggested by President Wil- - eon.\ More New nivcr Mines Kcsume. Reports received by tho of-- 1 flclals of tho operators as well as at the ! offices of the National Coal Association from various sections of the coal bearing J regions Indicated that tho complete ehut-- ! down of the industry In the Indiana, Ohio and Illinois fields was continuing.' On the other hand, most encouraging reports were brought In from West Vir- - glnla. A despatch from Huntington. W. J Va.. the coil capital of tho vast region Ten union mlne resumed wure w-d- in tho strongly union New luver Held, Some of these mines were large operations embodying several hundred men each. Four of the number went, i ,. . -i- - no nnn.imlnn. nne as ODen shop and five went back to work as union J mines under we oia ms\ working conditions. \Eighteen union mines were letiuiw working to-d- iy in the northern west Virginia field. j \Three union mines resumeu mm -- ) day in the Kanawha field, two under the j old wage scalo and worktng conditions I and ono a'a a n operation. All 1 non-unio- n districts In West Virginia were 1 reported to bo running full time with a full car surely and a full complement of men. The State will produco y more 5 than 200,000 tons of bituminous coal, f over half ot It'J normal production.\ M Thoro'will bo no change in the policy . ..'..i.im. fmm enlHnff In strike break- - ers in any orine uieuucvvcv. -- wY;-ti, 5 the present at least, mis aeienrami., it is felt, will have tho effect of putting tho men on th'e defensive agatnsrpres- - sure from Inside tne unions ,ivc a re- sumption of work. WniihlnKtoii Policy Chanslnir. ' Another clement which is working I toward the settlement of tho strike Is the growing appreciation ,on the part of the striking minors that a changed policy j has been undertaken by the Federal Ad-- I ministration. Throughout tho war the ' policies of tho Fuet administration under \T Dr. Garfield tended continuously In the direction of strengthening the unions. rm,. TTtt,l Minn Workers of America had assumed the leading position In mat- -l ters of organization and solidarity of all the unionized labor of America, with the exception ot the railway brotherhoods. 3t had come to bo felt by the union heads j that the power ot tho union was practl-- ; cally Illimitable It was when the Cabinet, taking the t situation In all Its gravity; determined upon a drastic policy of law tnforce-- f mcnt and altered Its attitude of the preceding years that tho leaders re-- I celved tholr shock. The facts are being P borne home to them now, leading opera-- - tnm TOpin iIao! illrpctlv with the men assert, and this fact Is occasioning the i spread of much dissension among tne rank nnrt fltln of the miners. nm1ipr of PonrrrpsH flrfl Rpnd- - ing direct appeals to the miners In their Attttrtnta n rutiirn fn wnrlc nnd Rtihmtt r ......w - 2 the dispute to the Government tor arm- - tratlon. Kcprcsentatlve currie (Jllcn.), In whnsn district are 73 rjer cent, of the I miners of Michigan, sent an open letter J to the miners to-d- declaring that the Issue now is whether the mon are with k or against the Government. Ilcnlutlnn for Selxnre. Representative Burke (Pa.) Introduced to-d- a resolution by the terms of which President Wilson would be author-- J lzed to take over the coal mines for one year. Meanwhile negotiations with the J miners' committee and arrangements for adjustment of wages and working con-- f ditlons would be conducted by the J President under the terms of the resolu-tlo- n. Tho prlco of coal would be based I on the actual cost, plus a reasonable1 , return to tho mine owners. J Official data in the hands of the Oov- - H ernmcnt on inc sirmo situation inuicates l nn Increasing production of bituminous JVtgal and a defection of union workers, wp put loyalty to the Government ahead of loyalty to their leaders. f Detailed data on the extent of pro- - i auction for every day of tho strike are I In tho hands of two Federal depart- - t mcnts.\ This data also gives the nurn- - ; ber of miners at work not only in non- - j union and open shop mines, but In union mines as well. Some of the fully J unionized mines aro working to a small degree. Thts data furnishes an ample basis 'or odlcl.il optimism with regard to tho Mrlke. This does not mcsn th'at the ntrlke la broken, or. that grave conse- quences may not ensue from a con- tinuance of tho unlawful walkout It tnM hiM mil thn nnlv nrARnt hnnA for 1 nn assured coal supply and settlement f of the difficulty. Business Men jet the best Business News and Three International Sections P Regularly in i Nta Yot.V$ Oreai Miming Nwjmptr GOMPERS WILL KEEP CUTTING WORK DAY Ho Declares for Eight Hour Period As Maximum in Address. E3IPL0YEBS TELL NEEDS Increased Production Called . Essential at World Labor Conference.' Washington, Nov, 6. Making his first address bofore the International Labor Conference, in which he alts as an unofficial representative of labor, Samuel Gompers, president of the Amer- ican Federation of Labor, declared to- day for the straight eight hour day as a maximum, as compared with the forty-eig- ht hour week, and Incldontally served nptlco that In the United States even the eight hour day would be shortened If labor could accomplish Its purpose. Mr. Gompers spoke in reply to a ma- jority report on tho part of employer delegates favoring the principle of re- ducing hours, but stating that It could not be put In force generally at this time owing to the need for Increased pro- duction aa a result'of the war. The report, submitted by D. S. Majorl-bank- s of Great Britain, pointed out the need for special effort \to make good tho shortage of food supplies, the recon- struction of devastated areas and tho replacement of machinery,\ and de- clared that tho progressive Increase In tho cost of Irving \would lead to dis- aster unless tho needs of the present situation wero considered In conjunction with the aims of tho labor representa- tives.\ . . Stoutly denying that output could oe increased over a considerable period of time by lengthening hours. Mr. Gom- pers characterized the American work- man the most productive worker in the world and Bald Industrial history proves the eight hour day to be moro produc- tive tha na ten or twelve hour day. Mr. Barnes's motion provided that tho draft convention on the forty-eig- hour week prepared by the organization com- - v,n mn,in th,. hnsls for discussion. ! but this was opposed by labor delegates on tho ground that It. excluded the elgh1 hour day from consideration. i I URGES U. S. COMMAND TO NEGOTIATE TERMS But Miners' Secretary Would Keep Men Out Meantime. INDIANAi'Ol.ja. rtUV. U. V!IIIUU utcc\ - .. .... . -- t secretary-treasur- oi tne unuea ai.no , Workers of America, suggested y . as a means of settling the coal strike ; , i. n . it,- - nnvnm.nt nrmnirn for n. eon- - i \ -- -. ferenco of miners and operators and \command them to reach, an agrocment.\ \The real way to settle tho strike Is for the Government to bring all Its moral and legal Influence toward bring-In- e the operators and miners together and command them to reach an agree ment.\ he said. \This Is the practical way to get the mines started.\ Mr. Green's plan, however, would not Include calling off tho strike pending settlement of the wago agreement, but was in lino with statements yesterday made by John L. Lewis, acting president of the miners, in which willingness of the miners to open \negotiations without reservation\ was expressed. Ellas Searlcs. editor oi the miners' official publication, the Jflne Workers 'Journal, Issued a statement harller to- day In which ho asserted the restraining order issued here last week worked to prevent the miners from giving the pub- lic their side of the controversy and that press reports consequently were one sided. He said that because of the in- junction numerous telegrams from news- papers and periodicals asking for In- formation on the strike had to remain unanswered. OPERATORS IN WEST SAY STRIKE IS BROKEN Miners in Colorado Stoutly Dipute Assertion. Denver, Nov. 6. Coal operators In the Trinidad and Wnlsenburg fields say y the strike of miners Is broken. Union leaders in the same districts say it only has started. Owners baso their assertions on re- ports from superintendents that more men appeared for work when the whistles blew this morning than at any time since the walkout started last Sat- urday. Union men say the number of men out has made dally gains and that they have signed up new union contracts with soveral sma.ll Independent mines where owners have agreed to produce coal only for local consumption until the strike ends. Several meetings of miners were held last night for the adoption of resolu- tions to be forwarded to President and Gov. Shoup protesting agalnft the presence of soldiers. Salt Lake City, Utah', Nov. 0. Word that orders to release all coal from Utah mines now held In this State by the railroad administration have been Issued was received y by A. D. Pierian, sales manager of the Utah Coal Company, from F. B. Clarity, assistant regional director with offices at Chicago. This order means. Mr. Pierson said, that Utah coal dealers will be able to get coal tho same as before tho embargo was Installed and that nil shipments will be sent through as billed. Troops from Camp Kearney, Cal., havo itlU.cu . . untoer.. Thfl whole coal area was reported quiet y with wortf continuing at all mines. Atorroiiuiiniip. N. M.. Nov. 5. Mines at Madrid are running at full capacity\ according to operators nere. Three mines nre now In operation at Gallup but the forces are still below normal Miners' officials say there have been only n, few desertions from their mnkit. Malor Edmunds, commanding tho I squadron of tho Eighth Cavalry now at Gallup, in n report to uov. iirruiuiu says everything Is quiet and tJiat no trouble Is expected unless an attempt Is mado to import labor. STEEL MEN PROTEST THAT U. S. IS UNFAIR Palmer Replies That Coal Men Violate Law. I! .11 .f Washington, Nov. 5. Protest by the Allied Steel \Workers' Council of Jollet, III., that the Government was not play-,in- g fair in using the Injunction In the coaUstrike. while refraining from any efforts to compel the rteel mill owners i coal strike was In violation of law and threatened Interfere with a sup-- I ply a necessity ot life, whereas tho iltecl strike did not have that aspect I The telegram of protest, addressed to I, Sure Relief Bell-an- s Hot water Sure Relief RE LL-A- NS Pfor indigestion President AVilson, nskod \why tho Gov- ernment Is trying to force the miners to arbltrato with the operators, but will not try to force Judge Gary to arbltrato with tho etcel workers.\ Attorney-Genera- l, Palmer said in reply that if any law was being violated In thd steel strike \I should not hesitate to act either against the Steel Corpora- tion or the strikers,\ and pointed out that in the month of October a case was argued in tho Supreme Court, \in which tho Government contends that tho Stael Corporation Is a violation of law.\ The coal caBO, he reiterated, was baBCd on the food and fuel control act, which does not apply to steel. THREAT TO FLOOD COAL MINE MADE Six Hour Day for a Pumper Is Demanded. . Special Detpatc to Tut Sex. Pittsburo, Nov. 5. Coal operators throughout tho Tri-Stat- o district will make no move to settle the strike until the Federal Government has exhausted every effort at its command. Tho de cision was forecast to-d- when tho central Pennsylvania operators. In con ference at Clearfield, decided that their hands wcrfc tied and nothing was left for them to do but to await the action of tho Federal authorities. At tho Carnwlth mines strikers de manded to-d- that a pumper be guar anteed a six hour day and an increase In wages or he would quit work at once and permit tho mines to be flooded. The mine operators Immediately referred the matter to the Department of Justice It is in tho central Pennsylvania neia that the Government Is depending In a great measure for coal In the present crisis. More than 25,000 n minors nre still at work in that district, Millions of tons ot coal aro expected n oe iiruuui-c- n.u mines there In the next thirty days. Wltli llio westmoreiana-jjaycue-Dome- r- set non-uni- field, these are tho only bituminous mines oporatmg In this state. In conjunction with the Guyan Valley Pocahontas field in West Virginia, they form the bulwark against a coal famlno during .the strike. Five striking miners appeared in tho United States Court here to-d- seeking -- I.I 1. ! v.nvu.ra Tl,4lTA ftl-- l refUQfrf . f lr, ID KraiLL Mll'dl UIW ...H..G.. Government had ruled that ... . ldl th t take the oath ,fl faithfully ; r . . - . r alleglanco snu remain on bu-ik- uh- - dcr existing circumstances.\ SEVEN OPERATORS YIELD. Sold to Have Acceded to All the Demands of Men. Bptcial Despatch to Tin Sen. St. Louis, Nov. C. Seven coal opera- tors who have mines In the vicinity of Belleville. 111., havo offered to grant all the miners' demands and sign up at the ntw scale Immediately, James Mason, secretary of the Belleville ct of the United Mine Workers, said to- day. Union leaders wero Jubilant ovon the situation. ' Mason said It was probabla that the advances would be rejected and that the miners probably would not sign up with any operators until nil of them granted the demands. The seven mines employ a total of several hundred miners. Tho demands which these own- ers are said to be willing to grant con- sist of a 60 per cent. Increase In wages, a six hour workday afld a flvo day week. METAL WORKERS IN GERMANY WALK OUT Efforts to Make Strike Gen- eral Meet With Failure. Jty th AllocUtti Preti. BcaLiN, Nov. (delayed). The metal ''firkers to-d- proclaimed a general The Minister of Economy had Intended to offer mediation between the men and tho employers, but ho has an- nounced that he will not Intervene iln view of order to strike. The strike Is ntarly general, although 3,000 workmen of the Slemcns-Nolsk- e plant returned to their Jobs this morn- ing. Tho strike Is said to have been called In violation of the rules of the metal workers' union, which requires a two-thir- majority of the workers on a vote to decree a general strike. the indications point to the defeat of the radical labor leaders of Greater Berlin In their attempt to force the workers into a general strike. The railroad men havo flatly refused to Join in the movement, and most of the moderate elements are stubbornly resisting a strike which they declnro has been dictated by Communist leaders. Somo of the metal workers have re- turned to work. . Minister of Dofence Noske announces that he will permit only Indoor meetings on tho occasion of the first anniversary of the revolution In Berlin next Sunday. In a restricted zone, comprising the Inner city, meetings are forbidden, and also all outdoor demonstrations 'within the limits of Greater Berlin. Ilerr Nosko also has balkod an at- tempt by the German Communists to observe tho anniversary of tho Russian revolution next Friday, by prohibiting\ gatherings of any kind. FOREIGNERS QUIT BARCELONA. Lockout Spreads and Conditions Are Becoming Worse, By the AnodattS Preit. Madrid, Nov. 6. Although the lockout in Barcelona has spread, the authorities take a favorable view of tho prospects. ! The Minister oi the Interior declared to- day his conflaer.ee In a prompt settle- ment Forty thoufand workers are without employment, but no Incident of note has occurred. Tho workers have Issued an ultimatum that In the event the lockout has not terminated by Saturday the trado unions will take energetic meas- ures. As a consequence of the lockout exist ence In Barcelona Is becoming more and leaving me city, xne pnera oi iuou, clothing and other necessaries continue to rise. REFUSES RANSOM MONEY. Mexico Will Xo, Refund ,150.000 I'nlit for I.'. S. VRcnt. kins. American conmilar agent at Puebla. Jenkins's attorney was forced to pay l . . \ . iii. . r i ... Mexican ' ' \ procuro. the. xonniUr. 3nt. orelcaso alter n ma mm uuiuyu4ab THE SUN, THURSDAY, MINERS MORE 30 ' HOUR WEEK-CAL- L Continued from First Paot- - tlon since the strike started and that mines In the union and n dis- trict were producing at the rate of tons annually. Normal output Is 90,000,000 tons.' Cunningham asserted that eighteen mines were operating in tho union fields of northern West Vir- ginia, an increaso of two over yesterday; that there was a gain of ono In tho Whtellng d'strlct, making a total of eight producing; that seven mines wera working l.i the New River district and threo in Ksrawha, and that tho union had made no headway In tho n fields. C. F. Kceney, president of district seventeen of the union, said \evory or- ganized mine In my district Is closed, despite reports to the contrary.\ ' Kceney will send to alights locals copies of the open letter about miners' wages sent President Wilson Monday. In reply his request for a ruling as to whether he was permitted to do this under the Indianapolis Injunction Attor- ney-General Palmer to-d- wired Lon II. Kelly, Federal District Attorney here: \Tell Kceney that the Administration's action Is misunderstood by him; that tho law forbids any agreement or ar- rangement to restrict the output of toal ; that tho strike is in violation- - of the fuel control act and cannot be con- tinued ; but that the Administration has taken no Bide in the wage controversy and stands ready to assist In bringing about a settlement fair alike to the miner and the mine owner as soon as this illegal strike order hi cancelled and either side requests tho Administration to act\ The strike which stopped operation of tho Ohio Cities Gas Company's oil wells Paint Creek three weeks ago was re- ported broken y by tho manage, ment. The oil workers have-thei- r own union, but It Is believed here that tho strike was brought about by the mine workers. Company officials say that many of the union men returned voluntarily on the promise that, a Joint committee would discuss wages and working condi- tions and that recruits bringing the force up to 70 per cent of normal had been obtained, some of them being striking union miners. The correspondent's train passed the wolls They were un- doubtedly busy. Tnlk WHh Worker. The correspondent touring tho coal fields to day were the guosts of mine oper- ators on a special train. It was stipulated by' the newspapermen, however, that they should be allowed, to stop wherever they liked and talk with any miner in nny place without any owner or his repre- sentative present, and to ask all tho questions they pleased. This arrange- ment was satisfactory to the operators and was observed. Both fields visited aro about forty-flv- o a miles south of Charleston. The first was Paint Creek, union territory all except two mines. Kingston and Westerly, which have a somewhat different agree- ment with the \Union than mines else- where, and aro all allowed to keep on. The train passed tho town where Daniel Bcone once lived, and along a route part of which, for a mountain trail, Gecrge Washington surveyed. Tho hills rise to 2,700 feet above sea level; they are covered with second growth timber not yet touched by Jack Frost's paint brush, and therefore turn- ing brown instead of red. Tho Paint Creek Valley Is Just wide enough to al- low the mining settlements bo built on bottom land. The farther up tho creek ono went the bettor because more modern were the houses. The typical Cabin Creek and Paint Creek miner's house Is a slate colored or yellow one story, four room, square frame building with a picket fence around It grass within the fence or not according to the propensities of the family. A little garden behind the house, a litter of shoats wandering about It and n corn patch hanging by Its toes from the mountain rising from the back- yard of tho habitation. It Is electric lighted and invariably has a light hang- ing from the celling of the porch over the front doOr. Many of these porch bulbs burn all day. A miner explained that the company supplied a houseful of electricity for SI a month and it was too much bother to turn off the current Many Kmpty Coal Cars. District school houses, usually sur- rounded by bare, hard trodden ground, it through the open windows of which boys and callcoed girls could be seen from t.3 train, were encoun- tered frequently. One of the schools spilled twenty pickaninnies, who sang when the train stopped, \I want to be ready to walk In Jerusalem, Just like John.\ They were children of negro miners. Everywhere on sidings stood mournful rows of empty coal cars, wait- ing for the end of the strike. The principal Paint Creek stop was at Kingston, twenty-tw- o miles up the gorge. Jlere loaded cars were seen for the first time, for the Kingston mine of the Solvay Collieries Company Is one of thoSo allowed to work by grace of the union, and it Is turning out 2,000 tons a day. The party went up the mountain to the mouth of the mine in a cablo car pulled up an 85 per cent grade for BOO feet and Into the mine for maybe a quarter of a mile. I loader was Just coming out of the draft It was not yet 10 A. M., but his day's work, loading wkat was left from a blast of the pre- vious day, was done. He said he aver- aged a five hour day four and a half days in the week and carnod $200 a month. Ho Is a native West Virginian, cool and shrewd and Is a union man and a good miner. Being asked of the demand for a six hour day, ho said: \We all do not take stock in that It is mostly colored men a skilled miner. Another skilled miner, a negro named George, withdrew his auger from a hole it was boring In the seam of coal in preparation for a \shot\ long enough tq say that he averages four day a week at 57 or IS a day, the mine being closed the other two days tor lack of cars. He was strong for the six hour day, because It would (five him time to do \a little farming about the house, but as\ between It and the 60 per cent wage' Increase would take the wage.\ His final observation was: \You tell the folks outside If they'll let down the price of grub we'll stop Expenses Too neavy. A white miner standing beside loaded cars said his average was JI60 a month and had J50 or 160 clear after the com- pany had deducted from his account what he owed for goods bought at the company store. He said he did not find It easy to clothe himeelf. wife and three children and havo a little fun occasion- - knew nothing one way or the other about the six hour day. An electrician working near the mouth of the mine was revealed as Wilbur Light, a State celebrity, who in the forest captured two German ma- - .Lla. trttwtm m I I A rianrlaft fin A lata rrnt hrto QT He allowed that he killed a few German \ \ ' \ v , Vnr rjiM. nr InfiiienlA T pren.lie tike .LAXATIVE ' J,nR'0M0 QUi(1Ne TabuuT too fonrw, I pnQYgn iigntinrt m nr rrrt wvjlwt, i more unbearable. Many foreigners ar8tRjiy on tha $50 or 160. He said he to negotials in liw steel strike, evoked Was.i.noton. ,ov. -- Th Mexican \''\eii'ei\\,,, a reply y Government, to Mexico city K fj \la compw. and Palmer, who said the issues in the two I newspapers, has refused to refund 160,- - Sn't till Icat the strikes wero entirely different He said . 000 ransom money to William O. Jen-- 1 f ,t. \...'\,, the to of to to In to vim .ZjLLlti i .. NOVEMBER 6, ;i919. say anything about miners' wages or hours. At the company, store In Kingston men's shoes sell from V to ,$12 a pair, the latter kind being the same that soils In New York for $16; women's shoes, from $4 to $7 ; shirts at $3.60 nnd $3.76. Silk shirts aro not uncommon among the negroes. They nro, however, fetching $5 or $6 apiece. The storekeeper s:ild he had moro demand for silk ptochlnKS thon he could supply, and that generally speaking the miners wanted tho best of everything for thomselves nnd their families. The settlement has a two story onruscmont hall with five pocket billiard tables ,a library, a reading room and barber shop. Tho library and reading room and recreation room are free. There is a small charge for tho other things. Tho town has a brans' band of thirty-thre- e pieces, the musi- cians ranging from an eight-year-o- girl up to a miner of 65, Movies ,aro Indulged In three times n week. To- morrow's seven rcoler Is Frank Keenan In \The Silver Girl.\ Tho minors of Kingston wero almost unanimous In saying that thoy were doubtful abolit the six hour day demand, but that they ought to havo' more money. Mary (last name blank), a Hungarian boarding house keeper, whose.four room house roofs five miner boarders besides herself and her' miner husband, and whoso front room has a fine collection ot photographs of wedding parties, re- ported that sho had no kick ngalnst anything in the world. aiarcl'lng; Path Crossed. From Paint Creek tho explorers re- traced their Journey part way to reach Cabin Creek, whero occurred a tragic flood a few years ago, where tho miners and officers of tho law fought In 1912, and whenco came most of tho men who In September of this year raara across the mountains with rifles and wero stoppod by the Govornor and Pres- ident Keoney of tho mlno workers bo- fore they reached non-uni- Logan T .VI4 . ihrv had heard, union , organizers wero being beaten up and a woman and clilld mut-- a oy t\\' guards. Tho killing part at least was untrue. Up Cabin Creok the Carbon Company has twelve mines and the Cabin Creek Consolidated Coal Company twentythreo mines. All are thoroughly unionized. Cabin. Creek Is often de- scribed here as .a \hotbed of sedition. whoro the Reds run frotning. n. not seem so The train stopped at South Carbon, where tho Carbon Company has two mines. The correspondent found W. r. Vandorpool, president of the. union \local\ a slow spoke youngish Ken-.,.m- ,, in ow.ntor and overalls, wno constantly stubbed his too Into the yel low earth as he tallied, tie averaged working live days a week at $7 a day and considered himself about as good as any miner In the camp \bet- ter than some, for I know what worlt is and go right after Iti\ He said alt of his earnings except fifty dollars a month went to the company store or for tho various small fixed charges, such ns for light and $1.50 a .month for coal. Ho and all the other miners, a group of twenty or .thirty who gathered around, complained of the prices charged at the company store. Their principal complaints were that bread cost 12 cents loaf, as against 10 In Charleston; and ham 55 cents, against 25 In Charles- ton ; and that tho store had been charg- ing 12 cents for a certain brand of chewing tobacco, but had reduced the price to 10 cents a few days ago Decauso It was scared by the strike. Thnv nirrced that the prices of a ped dler's wagon which the company allows to go up and down the creek were lower than those at the company store, hut most staples had to bo sought at the store because-o- f Its proximity, although they were free to .buy where they could. Answer From Company. Tho nnawor of the company's manager of stores was that the Charleston brend was two ounces lighter; that the prlco of tobacco had fallen nationally, henco at tho mine, and that if ham was bought anywhero for 25 cents It must have been part of tho Government surplus. Vanderpool said whllo he believed a majority of his men would vote for tho thirty hour week If they had n chance neither he nor they knew much about except It figured In tho strike call nnd that they were open to conviction. His words were, \We aro not much posted on that subject' up here.\ He also said the miners, who usually go hunting In vacation time, were staying at home now lest any one might see a man with a riflo him of going off to shoot somebody. He was confident that the miners did not wish any violence and, although on strike because they were told to strike and because they knew their wage was too low, were on friendly terms with tne owners, rie thought If the cost of living was cut wages might not have to bo raised, but was one or the other. All the miners sounded on Cabin Creek said about the samo thing except that most of them .it a nt rarA nnvthlne about the thirty hour week, as they wero nfrald they couldn't make more man iney no , even If the 60 per cent, scale Increase was granted. HOUSE COMMITTEE AGREES ON SHIPPING Bill to Provide for Sale of Board's Vessels. SfitcM DetpaM to Tns So. Wasihnoton, Nov. 5. A programme. of legislation providing for a strong American merchant marine privately owned and operated under governmental regulation was agreed upon y by the House Merchant Marino Committee. The bill will be called up In tne near future and Republican leaders hope to pass It at the special session with tho certainty, however, that tho Senate will not act until the regular session. Tho committee so strongly favored privato ownership and operation of tho marine that it recommended the Ship- ping Board and the Emergency Fleet Corporation be ordered to dispose of all Its vessels, property and Interests as soon as practicable. Tho strict limita- tion was inserted, however, \that all ves- sels except thoso of little advantage to the American merchant marine must be sold to American liitorests and regis- tered under American charters. Incase of anothor emergency these vessels would be available Immediately for Gov. ernment service, this being one of tho provisions of the sale contract All new ship construction or any now In nroirress would be halted immediately upon the passago of the bill, despite the i recommendation of John Barton Payne, I chairman of the Shipping Board, that vessels aggregating In vnlue about $100,- - 000,000 be computed to round out tno shipbuilding programme. I ALL SIGNS INDICATE DEFEAT OF TREATY ' Continued from First Page. place where we .saved our skins woi whero wo rallied the cohorts of- - John Barloycorn and raised tho glorious Issue of .'free booze' to a point whore all other Issues were obscured,\ Speaking of tho Senators who .support tho Leaguo of Nations, Senator Reed said: \Among the things they do not know nbout nlthougjj a number of very clear and Incisive speeches have been made on the floor ot tho Senate In part 13 nnd the members of the Senate do not know about that They rotlro to tho cloakroom they play the part of the snapping turtle, who, when disturbed pulls In his head, pulls In his tall, shuts down his shell and closes up. They are determined to vote for this league whether It Is right or wrong. They are committed. Their masslvei minds nre In a static condition nnd cannot be moved. Argument does notnppeal to them. 'It Is a Democratlo measure' say somo of thorn; 'tho President demands it' say others. \Well It Is not a Democratic meas- ure, for no Democratic convention ever passed upon It and it they are doing It simply beeauso the President declares they should do It, without the exercise of their Independent Judgments, they ought t? go and live In a country where one man does tho thinking for nil the people. They ought not to sit In a body under a Constitution that makes It their duty to exercise an Independent Judg- ment and they ought not to hold up their hands and swear to God they will sus- tain and uphold that Constitution and then lay down their Judgment and trans- form themselves Into a mero servile brood fawning at the feet of executive authority. UrllncN Itencrrntlons. \A number of gcntlcmon are solacing their souls with the fact that thoy will not vote for amendments, but they are going to do the same sort of thing by voting for reservations. No matter how good an amendment Is, It must be de- feated and It Is defeated by the votes of men who say that every principle contained In the amendment Is wise and Ji;3t and proper and necessary. But they will not vote for It because it is an amendment They will, however, salve their consciences nnd anoint their tender sensibilities by a reservation. \Now let us Feo what real sense there Is in that position'. If a reservation is the equivalent pf an amendment In Its Wfoct, then the amendment must be tho equivalent of the reservation In Its ef- fect; two things that nro equivalent to each other are exact equals and If they do accomplish the same purpose and bring about the samo end. then why It Is that men will adopt and refuse the other? \I will tell you why;-- reservation la the last resort of cowardice. It Is the hole through which tho little soul of a fellow who Is not willing to stand up and front the people seeks to escape from responsibility. It Is tho crack In tho fence through wMtfi a house dbg al- ways seeks to escape. Tho mastiff turns at bay and fights or else he takes the fence nt a Jump. Ho does not go cring- ing and. crawling nnd whining and some of them havo their heads stuck In the crack now and do nor know whether to back up or go ahead.\ Here the nt interrupted: \The chair feels that he will have to call tho Senator from Missouri to order.\ \For what renson?'' \Ifnthat js- - not Imputing to Senators conduct, or. rnot'lve unworthy or unbe- coming, the chair does not know what Is.'rtWas the reply. ''The chair Is putting a construction upon what, I nm saying that I do not intend to Imply at all,\ said Reed. \I am simply using figurative language In pointing out a situation and not to at- tack any Individual.\ \Well the chair thinks It is going too far,\- - said the nt \Of course.'Mf the chair thinks so I will use other language,\ said Mr. Reed. \I have 'hot had the slightest desire to reflect upoh Individual Senators. I am discussing a situation that Is presented here nnd I think the voluntary calling to order by the chair Is very unkind.\ \The chair,\ replied the \docs not mean to be unkind, but to charge a body of Senators with being snapping turtles and dogs and things of that kind \ \No I have not charged them with being dogs or snapping turtles. I used the comparison that came to my mind to express an Idea nnd not to descrlbo them at all and the text of my speech will so show, and It will be printed without any correction. When t say that men close their minds l!kea snap- ping turtle, I do not call them snapping turtles. If\ I said they acted like angels I would not mean' to say they were angels, for that would bo far from the truth.\ GARIBALDI SPEAKS HERE. Urses llctter Trade Helntions V. S. nnd Italy. Cnpt. Ezlo Garibaldi, grandson of the Italian llberntor. who speaks with the aid of a sliver tube that was placed In his throat after It had been pierced by nn Austrian bullet, urged more active commercial Intercourse between the United States and Italy at a meeting of prominent Italians In the Masonic Tern pie last night. He declared that an increase In the volume of trade will promote better po Utleal and diplomatic relations between the two countries. Ho refused to accept a gold handled sword In the nrimo of his brother. Gen. Giuseppe Garibaldi. He said the Gen era! Is soon to come to this country and tho sword may bo presented to him in person. Second Generation\ Accounts MlNY of our personal and personal checking accounts were start- ed by the parents of our present clients or depositors. It is only natural that such long familiarity with the special requirements of aa account should enable aa ta giro service which k ex- treme lj valuable. FULTON TRUST COMPANY OF NEW YORK EjuMUW 1S90 if iW ftJtrmt 2nrH SfUmm 8Ufr BIUh Broadmrjr TREATY IN FULL EFFECT NOV. 28 Paris See Protocol Signed and Ratifications Exchanged. Taws, Nov. 5. The Treaty of Ver- sailles nnd tho poaco settlement with Germany will become effective, It Is as- sorted In well Informed circles In Paris, November 28. The signature t tho'nro-toc- nnd tho exchange-- of ratifications between Germany and 'such allied and associated Powers as havo thon ratineu the treaty will tako lnco on that date, It is reported. Tho first meeting of tho Co'ncll or the Leaguo of Nations will bo hold In Paris, the Supreme Council decided to- day. It did not, however, fix a date for tho galhcrlng. It was agroed that tho council of tho world body should consider at this meet- ing only mattors which must be passed upon Immediately after the formal rati- fication of tho Gorman poaco troaty. Th Sunn.ma Council to-d- discussed its own uncompleted work, preparatory ' t0 accding exactly what questions must bo passed upon before the peace con ference ends., Bebun, Nov. 6. The noto of tho Su- preme Council calling on Gormany to send to Paris delegates to sign a protocol agreeing to carry out certain unfulfilled provisions ot the armlstlco regarding surrender of railway material, agricultu- ral machinery, &a, nnd to make com- pensation for the destruction of the fleet at Scapa Flow, has been received here. The note calls for the surrender of fiontlne docks and small destroyers ns a penalty for tho destruction of tho warships nt Scapa Flow. MANY REPUBLICANS ON MUNICIPAL BENCH Result of Election in the Dis tricts Contested. Final returns show that tho following wero elected JusUces of the Municipal Court: . . Manhattan, First district, James J. A Caffrcy, John Hoyer and William L. Moore, Democrats; \Second district, Mor- ris Eder, Benjamin Hoffman and Will- iam Blau, Joint Republican and Demo- cratic endorsement; Third district Thomas F. Noonan and Thomas H Mur- ray, Democrats; Fifth district, Abram Ellenbogcn, Republican; Sixth district, Thomas A. Leary, Democrat; Eighth district Carroll Hayes, Republican. Brooklyn, First district, James Dunne, Democrat! Second district, John U. Far-rar- . Republican: Third district, Charles J. Carroll, Republican; Fourth district, Jncob D. Strahl, Democrat; Fifth dis- trict, Cornollus Ferguson, Republican. Queens, First district. John Hcther-Ingto- Democrat; Second district, John M. Cragen. Democrat; Third district, Adam Christman, Jr., Republican; Fourth district, Edgar F. Hazelton, ' Richmond. First district, Thomas C. Brown, Fusion; Second district, Arnold J, B. Wedemeyer, Democrat. SWEET SAYS HE WON ON WELFARE STAND Bills Now Will Be Handled in Logical Way. Special Dmpatch to Thb Sex. SrnACUSE, Nov. E. Thaddeus C. Sweet, Speaker of the Assembly, regards his sweeping victory over Miss Marian Dickcrman, returned war nurse, ns n vindication of his own and tho Assem- bly's stand on tho welfare bills. The Speaker's majority, S.200, Vas about 3,000 In excess of his majority two years ago. With, the exception of two or three districts in the city of Oswego the Speak- er carried every district in tho county. Miss Dlckerman's whirlwind campaign and hor, bitter attacks- - on the Speaker for his attitude on the labor measures failed utterly. Not only did her appeal fall to Influence the women voters to whom a great part pf her campaign ap- peals wero aimed, bat also failed to move the normal Republican votor In tho rural districts, as the vote there for Sweet this time was heavier than before. In some districts Mies Dlckerm.m even failed to hold tho normal Democratic vote. Speaker Sweet Issued a statement to- night In which he said that next winter thosa bills probably would bo handled In a logical and more satisfactory manner. France Gtvrs Ilimc dm to Tnconin Paws. Nov. S. The French Govern ment, ns a compliment to Hugh C. Wal lace, tha American Ambassador, Has presented to Tacoma, Wash., Mr. Wal- lace's home town, ono of tho largest guns captured by the French from tho Germans. The gun will be shipped ns soon as arrangements can be made for Its transportation. NE window of Four Maiden with their beauty. to our will prove a to one in- terested in A PORK Once upon a time Ceres, the of Grains, a very fine wheat field. She was one, day to find it by a pig and ordered the culprit roasted, thus discovering one the most delightful of foods. ham and crisp, appc tizing bacon, which blend with eggs, are pork for which are famous.- - fruli, amttnitf uiife with both, vrhtkl cake and (. ft ea tho sloe. DRYS PROBABLY WIN KENTUCKY ELECTION Law Carried in Victory. Special rieipaleh to Tns Sun. Louisvimt, Ky., Nov. B. Kentucky Republicans, Jubilant over the avalanch ot Republican, Independent and Dem- ocratic votes that swept Edwin P. Mo- rrow into tho Governorship yesterday, wero planning y elaborate ceremo- nies for Inauguration day, December , Mr. Morrow will become the forty-firs- t Governor of Kentucky and tho flnt Republican to fill the highest office hi tho gift of tho voters of the Stato In twelve years. Mr. Morrow received the htavleit plurality ever given a Republican gube- rnatorial nomineo in Kentucky. With only flvii counties out of 120 missing hi! plurality Is placed at 36,000, and It will go at least 6,000 higher, because th five missing counties are in the mou- ntains and aro rock ribbed Republican. Evory Stato nominee put forth by the Republicans also was elected and th House of Representatives as well. Th State Senate will remain Democratic by two holdover votes. Although returns on both of the Statt amendments,- - prohibitions and antl-lyne- h law, are meagre still It is believed both were carried. CHILE DENIES CEDING LAND. Strip for Outlet to Sea Not Given to Bolivia. Santiago, Chile. Nov. 5. Categorical denial of reports from Washington that Chilo had ceded to Bolivia a strip of land of Arloa which would give Bolivia an to the sea was made by tho Chilean Government y. It was said such rumors wore of fre- quent occurrence and tho Government usually paid little attention to them. 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