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Id, Capt. Traill, who wu (lying with Un, were merely ihiken up. ' , i',' Capt. D Ulvetgne's experience was \'Ten mora thrill (nr. ll flaw with Lieut. XX B. Glsh.'bne'of the moat experienced s f American pilots, who wears steel traces on his lees, broken In 'eighteen places In a crash during the war In Franco. Olsh, too, reached ntnghamton tn 'safety, but after taking oft his DII-- 4 8 plane burnt' into flames over Canadlce, N. T., when' the engine backfired Into the carburetor. Qlsh's skill find 'un- - ' fjreakable nenre enabled' him to ret the plane down to the ground and both men scaped. The Lackawanna and Erie Railroad L tracks on the air line between New Tork 'and Blnghamton were responsible for Mearilng astray several of the contest e'tanta. Instead of following the winning \Erie road several fliers picked .out the ii Xackawanna and as a result found themi elves In Pennsylvania, many miles south ' 6f the flret control station. Three fliers at least were led astray In this man- ner. Including Second Lieut. Willis R i Taylor, who 'piloted the only'Itollan ma Chine In the race, an S. V. A. He uJanded at Nicholson, Pa;, but Is ap- parently still In the race. Lieut. O. C. McDonald, In a De Hav-'ilan- d plane, was the seventh to start from Mlneola, but expertancod difficulty with his engine over the Oranges. He managed to YeacS the\ field at Mlneola land again started cut- - This time- - he went off his course and crashed at Ply-- 1 mouth. Pa. ( The start of a. mysterious jt)e Havlland plant bearlng-th- e number iit, a number which was not included (among those distributed by \do officials the American Flying Club, who the race, was .a mysterious phase Iot the race. CoL Archie Miller, thinking \uhlp had checked, out in the usual waved the- - machine-t- o go ahead Just as It touched'wheels at Roosevelt Field. Th'e pilot took- - him at his word Lend shot away to Blnghamloh, where ,11 J waa reported having , landed and again-'take- off- .- Nothing mors was heard of -- a. Ideal Day for Jtaee. f The day for the big race dawned if crystal clear and with mora than a tinge ef autumn In the air. A moderate though chilling breeze came sweeping i across the broad Hempstead plains from Jtho north, swinging a few points now jeast and now west, but In the main from the north, which meant a quartering 'wind on the first lap of the race. To BriavGen. William Mitchell and CoL Archie Miller, commandant of fly- -t raff fields on Long- - Island, the cloudless J sky came as a great relief, for mist, Iheavy clouds or rain might have meant fa far greater number of crashes and 'deaths. The way to Blnghamton Is for airplanes because of the 'hills, wooded sections and rocky ground ever which they must, pass. A heavy airplane blundering down through a fog for mist out of her course or with a dead could hardly have landed at miles an hour or so In such ieegine) injury or death for her n1 passenger. The pilots of the planes which did come down on the dash had some oppo- rtunity during the downward glide to jptck and steer for a smooth place, and (this explains why only one fatality oc- curred In this section and Incidentally ffolnts to the need of clearly marked eenergency landing fields, i The pilots, clad In their leather flying fclofhes, pronounced It great flying Sfreather yesterday morning and added another sweater or shirt to their outfit fwhen th-i- y felt the snap In the air. They (knew they would fly high over that bad country ahead of them, and they knew hfea numbing power of the Icy fingers of Hhe north wind tn the heights above the ihllltops. At 1,000 feet the freeze was flowing fifteen rjl'.ea an hour from th (north-northea- st as balloon testa at (Mlneola, showed, while at 3,000 It fresh- ened to twenty-eig- ht miles and at 4,000 H twenty-seve- n miles an hour, still from ithe north. At t.000, a height which rpjobably few If any soared to, for they 'were out for speed, not height, the wind shifted to the northwest, directly ahead 'of them, and blew at thlrty-sl- x miles an hour. I I?e Careaaasrx at, Starts i 9hor4 was no ceremony of any sort SaoBsected with the start of the race, the greatest aerial contest the world has var seen, and a race which will rank 'as on of the great races of alt time, ualesa, indeed, the terse \Let them go, OoloneV of Gen. Mitchell can be ed ceremony. And CoL Miller let ?thani go. J There waa no lineup of flfty-flv- e ma- chines for a' review before the race, no 'speeches, and at the last moment even !,tha order decided upon by lot was cast aside, owing to the Impossibility of main- taining the two minute schedule and order among machines ready and y, scattered over .the many broad 'acres of Roosevelt and Haxelhurst fields. )Th filers entered the official tent of the CasBerkaa Prying Club, where , Cole iTouager of the contest committee\ gave jflMm their log books, and then went. If is feeble a word as \went\ can describe 'a rearing, bouncing dash serosa the field and sudden lightning thrust Into the ,atr. a trail of smoke and machine gun ..symphony, and a vanlehlng speck on the 'northwest borlson. 5 The spectators were lined up along the Berth skte of the field, hundreds of autc-saebl- les tinlag the space Just Inside the fawm of hangars, and spectators massed ' in frost of them. Nearest the field were three official tents Tn a row, with privi . J. 1 it ou don't Msn's Sbopt- -2 leged spectators grouped before therrf. It wns the pleasant custom of many, of the filers to taxi out Into the field, head their machines for the tents, and come roaring forward nt sixty-eight- y, and a. hundred miles an hour. It was good flying to clear the tents snd a fine way of letting the officials and spectators know they were going. It never failed, The most intense Interest .was displayed by the spectators In these departures, particu larly in those wno aoseni minaeaiy re- frained from Dulling their Joystick up and taking off until rather near the tents. But ther always did set over, aitnougn when Major Henry J. Miller, m a heavy DH-- 4 came sizzling along it looked st certain that he would score a clean hit h the tent pdle. But he soomed 'at the last moment, and his machine seemed to the startled and moving spectators as If It shot directly upward for a' time. acaehle First to Start. Many of the spectators were In Ig norance of the fact that the race had started, for, although there were half a doze'r,)nachlnas In the air at on time shortly after t o'clock, alt. Were waiting for the', Jloeup and ceremonies. The first man off was. Second Lieut-'- J. B. Machle in a. DII-4- . with Senreant Jesse D. McCluro with him as passenger and mechanician. There are forty-eig- ht DH machines, De llavllands, to be less cryp-tlc- al. The DH is a heavy plane of the reconnaissance tyoe. which waa devel oped tn Cngland, although the planes tn this race were built by airplane com- panies In the United States. They carry 400. horsepower Liberty twelve cylinder motors and have a speed of 124' miles an hour. The odd numbered planes had been se lected to start In the mornliwr; while the even number on the Held un- - Ul the afternoon, in order not to fill up the Blnghamton field to a dangerous ex,- -, Unt, Ftollowinc the departure of Lieut.' 'Machle.- - tha filers buxzod away In rapid' succession.' UeutHUOl. 11. a. Hartney in his lightone seated 8E-- 5 (Scout experl-- J mentalr British machlne.whKh chased many a JFokker off the western front, taking second place. Far down the line, thf.tentA to take the air, Lieut Beivln W. Maynard, the \flying parson,\ drove his DH-4- \ over the three tents at 9:34:50 A. M. Concerning this same parson, who es- tablished a world's record In France by looping let consecutive , times without losing altitude, there Is much to bo' said. In the first place, although the winner of the Toronto-Ne- w Tork race, he did not turn up at the dinner to the contestants tn the'. race on Tuesday night at the Commodore, for the reason that ho waa working on his machine. What he was doing all through the night before the ' race, was .replacing on his machine tho I ordinary wires which strengthen the wings of a DIL Maynard had figured that stream line wires would give him about six more miles an hour, and he had put them In, hut Gen. Mitchell ruled that his machine must be standard In every detail, so he ripped them out again all through the night, meohanlca being scarce at Mln- eola. lie finished In time to be among those present yesterday morning. Maynard Carries Dos;, Maynard also distinguished himself by earring the only mascot of the rice. Trlxle, a German police pup, shared the rear cockpit of the DH with Second Lieut Walter E. Richards. Trixte went up 'with divided feelings of loyalty to Maynard and eternal friendship for the solid earth. It was perceptible despite the headlong' dash of . the' \ship\ that Trixle's tongue was hanging far out as he gazed backward at' the pleasant green grass of the landing field. \lie may be a parson,\ said one weary mechanic as he sat down on the grass and watched the DH turn Into a black speck,-.\bu- t he certainly flies like the devil. Then followed a debate as to whether Trlxle would be a skye terrier lcstcad of a police pup when he reached Frisco. Right behind Maynard In a Bristol fighter--wen- t Air Commodore L. E. O. Charlton, , the British air attache at Washington. Charlton entered the race tor the sport of the thing and also to test out the Rolls-Royc- e engine with which his machine was powered against the Liberty motor. Before leaving Com- modore Charlton said: \The aviators of Great Britain appre ciate the privilege of being represented in this race which may have most mgni-fice- nt results tn world aviation. I am entered through the courtesy of the American army air ejrvlce, not to com- pete with American aviators but to show the sportsmanship which is common to all fliers. \Those who believe that transporta- tion tn the future will be carried on in no small measure by ah realize that this event will give an impetus Impossible under other circumstances. The vsst llstasce In America now. being traversed by airplanes are but a step in Unking up the world through aviation which Is sure to come within the next few years.\ When he was forced down at Inltr-lake- n, N. Y he hastened to relieve tha snxlety of CoL Archie Miller by sending we following telegram: \Forced landlnsTnear tnterlaken and mashed machine. Too sorry to have such bad luck at start after all your gooa wisnes. ., Frenchmasl 3a- Alasa. The other foreign filer. Cant Da La Vergne, French air attache at Washing ton, wno went as a Dassencsr in Lieut D. B. Glsh's machine, received great gooa wisnes from Mrs. F. it. Wilson. vne Misses czsire and Dorothy Ogden FIFTH AVtUVt to 8 Wcit Jt.h StrMt-Btr- eet Lsvet have to accept 2.75 in hand tailbring! FRANKLIN ' SIMON . Men's clothes are genuinely hand tailored clean thru Suits. tjo to 8o Topcoats $40 to $6$ and Miss Helen Enbury of New Lieut Glsh himself got a glove, and some ribbons from the ladles and Dd La Vergne a. kiss from Miss Dorothy Ogderi. Toung.'Glah Is generally known as one of the gamest ot America's filers. Both his legs ar In braces, one having been broken tn fnitr4'ft an tti other In four when he crashed In France, wners ne served with the 185th Night Pursuit Squadron. OUh went zooming Into tha air In his DIE at 10:14, the flf- - iccmn man io leave the field. During the Uksoffs Brlg.-Ge- n. Mitchell went up In his own SE-- 6 machine and gave the crowd an exhibition of flying aa It Is rarely done by a Brigadier, pen. .Mitchell looped,, barrel rolled, fall- ing Jeaved. nose dived, and tn fact did everything but .crash, which was the thing tha spectators thought he was go- ing to,do all the time. In the afternoon Capt Field B. Kind-le- y, an American aoa who downed twelve German planes, showed the spectators \the works\ and some of his plunges downward made the wires of his ma- chine, scream so.loudly they drowned the thunder of his engine. J Capt JCIndley withdrew \from' the race. In which he was No. 4, because he thought his duties as atfjuthrit to' CoL Archie Miller made It necessary for hlrn to remain at Mlneola. When Capt Roy N. Francis and his three passengers In No. 18, tho big Mar- tin bomber, the only two motored ma- chine In the race, took off at 1 :15 In the afternoon he left behind him a pre dlctton that his \ship\ would take him to the Pacific coast in four days under ordinary flying conditions.- - The big ship plane to start In the race jrduuay, ,nr an me others are whollv or In part of British. French. Italian and German design. The Liberty motor, however, Is overwhelmingly the motor used by the machines which started yes- terday. fJVL\d noh.!ff: c.u.rtJsa tt pilot who world's altitude record' for one man-- met Major R. W. Schrocder. his greatest rival, who holds tho two man altitude record, Rohtfs \Wins Arrnmcnl, They waxed earnest In their discussion of their feats, until Rohlfs broke up the party by declaring that Sohroeder had an undue advantage because ha startea higher. Schroeder Is fl feet 3 inches talL and was unable to offset the argument Last night Roosevelt Field was a deserter place, for most\ of the ma-chlr- es there .had been cleaned out Bight planes, which, ore -- still officially ... .a. Dtwmiin inny oiq not start may take off and although they cannot win -- the glory first to the Pacific they may win In the speed contest In which, there are1 as many rJsjowji an tvn. n places being awarded according to ac- - mm vie nanaicap com- - PtniJn Thrc?. ,ailu,a Wnr tlm jivotuajjo oaaca repQted apced of the machine evils VUUUU Filers remaining longer than forty- - eliminated, unless held by order of the ul Druse or heavy rains or dense fogs. The control stations are located as follows: v. Mllei IHitanra from .Si &TpX& RSion 52 ,a s wSsa?\. is \? in Sereland ID Id M ohlearq tM la, Omaha i.om lit tin St. Paul l.Jit in North Platte iK iu Lm Sidney i.ms m fepj Cheyenne MM m yea Bawllni e.:3 iu j jot Green Htver i. e.sn in Sa t Lake tr...,...:a lr 2$1 Slduroj 4.M0 i 1B Battle Mountain 4.MT IK j ic Reno Hi io iH Sacramento .......... so m - San FranolMO. ...... is 75 ;oi Need for a separate air service waj pointed out yesterday afternoon by Law- rence L. Drlggs, president of the Amer '.THE SUN,- - THURSDAY, OCTOBER 9, iL910. JUSTLY FAMOUS It takes 424000 pounds of cotruncal A year to. make the Commeal Cakes served in the. CHILDS restaurants. And every pound is ground whole with all the \heart\ left in, makjng it rich in fat, rich in vitamincs and rich, in natural sweetness. Real Virginia Cornmcal Cakes, as golden as Southern sunshine, with clove fswect butter and maple-flavore- d syrup. . Mml that aim Astro mornlnf with a cap ef CHILDS deleieu eaff. lean Flvlne Club, wtm m. on nf v- - offlclals ovorscelrur the scoring of the race. 'If f?nnr-r- Arrant th rMnnnhnuu now dearly before It. and establishes a separate Department of Aeronautics me people 01 uie united states 'will provide such popular support of avia- tion as to make certain transcontinental tnnmflrtfitlnn liv nr.\ ti aM will be fully under way within thrw years. 11 congress avoids the respontl' bllltv It mttv nrove th&t thA m. Witt be recorded as the last splendid effort of patriotic men to save the air service of the country.\ Only One Got to Chtcaat. Of the forty-seve- n alrolanea whloh left Mlneola yesterday one turned back arm thirty-fou- r are known to have reached Blnghamton. Thlrtr-fou- r air planes had also reached Rochester, the second station, 'some of these posnlbly skipping the Blnghamton station, al- though under the rules they are sup- posed to stop there for at least thirty minutes. Twenty-si- x airplanes went on io iiurraio. Kight reached Cleveland and four pressed on to Bryan. Only Lieut .Maynard reached Chicago. Lieut Maynard at Chicago predicted that he would be' In San Francisco by sundown If be does this he will beat the train tlma to the Pacific coast by two days despite tho fact that he is compelled to mo1c6:twertty stops on trie way ana is not permitted to fly at night It was\ generally expected that the filers from the Pacific coast would set the pace; as the prevailing winds blow from the west and this will add many miles on hour to their speed. The only German machine which started from Mlneola, a captured Fok-ke- r, piloted by CoL C. a Culver, the oldest, pilot in the race, who Is 47, reached Rochester by nightfall. Lieut-Co- L It K. Kartney, flying a British SE-- a one man fighter, reached Cleve- land.. OoL Hartney was second to leave Buffalo but was forced to land at an emergency station northeast of Brie for more gasolene. He reached Cleveland at. 4 :21 and hastily charged his spark plugs, but It was too lato to attsnret to .fly on. to Bryan. Col. Hartney served terore the United States entered the war In tho .British air forces and brought down five Germans. He holds the Le- gion of Honor, the Croix de Ouerre with two pahns, the American D. S. C and the Italian Silver Medal of Honor. News of the Pad Ho coast filers was meagre. Several eaatbound planes landed at .tha aviation field near Salt Lake City at o'clock, one turning over and killing Major Crlssoy and his mechanic. This apparently is the mMit astern point reached by the filers. The .city Is 818 miles from San Francisco by air line. First to nexeh Ileno. Capt Lowell H. Smith, with Lieut. F. W. Druggies, as hlr observer, was the first of the east bound fliers to reach Reno, the second control station from the Golden Gate. In all, fourteen planes reached tho tfevadan city and set out for Battle Mountain. 19 miles away. Smith, who flew DH-- 4 Bluebird, had flown over the filarra Nevada Mountains before and knew his way. Only five airplanes art) known to have reached ealduro, the Control \beyond Battle Moun- tain, in safety. Salduro Is 618 miles from Ban Francisco and 100 miles from Salt Lake City. The only Spad airplane' In the race had bad luck and failed to reach Blng- hamton. Lieut R. L. Maughan, the pi- lot originally was disqualified because of slight eye defect, from flying, but last minute appeal to Gen. Menoher, air chief, won him permission to enter the race. He started out at 10:56, the seventeenth plane to leave 'Mlneola, but landed at Olendale, N. T little more thnn art hour later. Apparently ho lost his course, forhe was reported at P. M. at Scranton, Pa., far south of the first control station. Another-flle- r who lost his war was Lieut It C Klrkpatrlck, who flew DII-- 4. Klrkpatrlck had trouble with his compass after leaving Blnghamton and finally landed at Vernon,. N. T. Lieut W. C. Foskett Brown, who was forced down on Monday night' at Jamaica, when flying to Mlneola In hja Le Pere plane, rushed to Washington by train Tuesday night and\ succeeded In getting De Havlland plane. He flew the ship up to New Tork early yesterday mornlng.and took off at 11:23. He reached Buffalo last night Engine trouble forced 'Major A. L. Sneed, piloting Le Pere plane, to make landing at Shenandoah, 'Pa.. Ho Is not out of ths race, however. Before the start of the raco Brie. Gen. Mitchell, chief of the training and operations group of the air -- service. pointed out tnat was no mere race, but that was Intended an oxperl' ment to ascertain how the.shlps built for tne comparatively short distances on the western front would behave In the great stretches of the United States, how -- apldly was possible to. establish land-'n- tr fields across the country and how meteorological data could be rapidly se- cured. The race was Intended rouro Interest In aviation and to show the different types of aircraft to the country WHERE AEROS LANDED AT END OF FIRST DAY Three Get to Bryan, Ohio; Eight Left at Rochester. 1 AT CHICAGO. Plane No. SI, Pilot\ Lieut B. W. May- nard. Arrived at :J3 P. M. AT BRYAN. OHIO. Plane No. 16. Pilot Lieut L, 8. Web ster. Arrived 6:32 P. M. Plane No. 27. Pilot Major H. J, Miller. Arrived :24 P. M. Piano No. 47, Pilot Capt Harry urayion. Arrived :zj jit, AT CLEVELAND. Plane No. 11, Pilot Lleut-Co- L H. Hartney. Arrived :21 P. M. Plane No. 23, Pilot Lleut-Co- l. T. S. Bowen: Arrived 4:0S P. M. Plane No. 29, Pilot Major H. Smith. Arrived :4I P. M. Plane No. 39. Pilot Lieut E. M. Man- - zelman. Arrivtd :0S P. M. AT BUFFALO. Plane No. 5, Pilot Lieut W. C F. Brown. Plane No. 8, Pilot Lieut A. Pear- son. Jr. Plane No. 14, Pilot Lleut-Co- L D. L, Reynolds. MISSES' SUITS BONWIT TELLER &XO. FIFTH AVENUE. 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Norrls.\ Plane No. 81, Pilot Lieut & W. Tor-na-y. Plane No. 46, Pilot Lieut T. Hayes. Plane No. 60, Pllot-Ca- pt J. Donald- son. Plane No. 102, Pilot Major A. Gtlke-8- 0 n. Plane No. Pilot Lieut O. New- man, V. 8. M. C. Plane No. 42, Pilot Llout J. B. Wright Plane N. 40, Pilot Lieut IL V. Sheri- dan. .AT ROCHESTER. Plane No. f, Pilot Lieut F. C Nelson. Plane No. 18, Pilot Capt Tt N. Francis. Plane No. 28, Pilot Major F. B. Lyon. Plane No. 36, Pilot Lieut L. V. Beau, Jr. Plane No. 44, Pilot Lieut F. Klrby. Plane No. 42, PUot Lieut IL D. Smlti. GIRL'S LOVE PRIZE . FOR MOTOR RACES Special Contest in Kansas to Settle Rivalry. . BptcUl Detpatc to Toa Sck. W CHITA, Kaa, Oct 8. Two motor racers in love with the same Kansas girl will battle out the issue of who wins her at the automobile aces here Friday afternoon, when Dick Selp and Mark Jenkins will participate In a special race for the privilege of becoming the hus- band of Marian Weuerst of Parsons. Arrangements, have \been mode for the marriage on the track Just after the race has been decided. Two marriage li- censes will be there, one made out to Lick Selp and Marian Weuerst and the Other for Mark Jenkins and Marian Weuerst The unusual performance will culmi- nate a. long period In which the trto rivals tn sport havo been rivals In love. Breaking the world's record for four miles at. the Hutchinson State Fair while Jenkins's Stuts wis trailing the field cut Plp tn high standing with Miss Weuerst ,4 who eat in the stand. Then Jenkins crashed through two fences at Oklahoma city and was badly Injured. The girl rushed to his bedside to care for him. Later the two competes tn races In Miss Weuerst's town, but neither got a da- - tH U... nr. fiav Mm fn C1WVII til IUI5i ' W ' \ ' - Wichita to decide the case. It 18 said a modest little nest egg win oe given the winner for their future home also. . Miss Weuerst will occupy the' Judges' stand during the race LABOR MEETING DOWN TO BUSINESS Continued from Flrtt Page, era! committee of fifteen, which will 1 tn tha nnfrence. To escape 'further delay, however. It Is understood that matters agr.ea on i the groups for presentation will be con-.- u. j y- .- nnmmlM. Infnrmallv thts IUCIGU MIS V.\........\.. - evening, so that the committee will be prepared In tho morning ror specay The various sections of the employers representatives held sectional meetings throughout the afternoon, and the group met this evening. There was no\i forthcoming from any of these meetings. ti.. -- ...hit.- ........niai vp.s likewise head a group meeting, but the session was strictly executive. Despite me iaci uwi all these meetings are behind closed si- - la si r A I si fit I tntr thA fftct that- . UWI Of Ult W V u 1x0 - the labor group Is the only one that may be expected to present an bdboiuwijt solid front on every Issue. The employ- - . . v i.iv ait a unit. era sivup 1109 v..'--- -.. - - but the farmer representatives and some 4V.. .nrnrramtlvB\ among the mployers' group threaten to break-away- . Pnblio Oronp Is Hard Paaltlosj. The public group Is patently In the most difficult position to maintain, li Is not only between employers and em ployees but It lacks .entirely tho com- mon thoucht that actuates tho other two groups. With men In the group ranging from Judge tlary to Johr Spargo .there la bound to b wide dif- ference of opinion on most any Issue. Tho true nosltion of- - the delegates will not be revealed In full, however. until debate begins In tiio open In con ference meetings as soon. as some spe- cific business Is' engendered. From j airateglOviewpolnt however. 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