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m .' ***** no* m54W & OOOHERSTOWISF, SA T U R D A Y DEGEM B E lf 3 fr )$m. VM N'Iir CQMQJiMSS, HOUsb OF _ RE PEE SEN T AT IVES SDEBATE ON FOREIGN M ELA T idM , MoNnAY,1-November 28. \ The first resolution reported by the com­ mittee on foreign relations being under consid- toatiofe Hi fee following word! : r Resolved, That1 the United States cannot without avS?,crififce o f their rights,-honor and mdependerfce, submit to-the late edicts of consequence is; that Great Bf yery commerce -which /you whfeh you will tojmprt yhur^Citizens carrying onv What7^3ftd Mr. ^ ‘ \ the language o f Bohj||arte in relation emhargo ? . Why, fee Hgd applauded that we had done more IfiUn he bad expected 5 that it hadfeeen ih his power to suppress the GreatEritaili and France. ; , cbnvmeraeof Britain, and we hapd assisted hinu that he was for enforcing this ia'tolt alf ha^i- that ^Mfent ■ m * to u ie* ^ ^ t lia t t e f e a s B o t r a M h ii, W hat -was lire Jinguage.of Grekt Wtatn^i ardi£ W t M * y e i r a q T 't e J Z - t& m « ™ M s o a language, o f approbate*. She ta n t o f t a . totl* of jgno- t0^ tisHiat we^uld rtotdojnorefor her; that all th|s hofesC; that rbehcve thnt tEeimT^-^- *1-- * • ?e - - - — — foatefefthMi df -sabstract legislation ; it was 7 |tih-ifCfe 6 WCf’Wesfen^t dr the r janee; t o often were willing to that it was vtith gient leluctance that he ex- liimanclto \exists cipated, thp vfeple j n f e f c e l o f J ^ U M e d and yet he Was Willii# to admit that if in any Case this mode of legislation could; be properly resoited to, this might be such a case. Bat in what he should odfio in support of the reap* iation alluded to, he should take gfdttod alto­ gether diffei ent from that contained ife the re­ port of the committee introducing thtotesolu- toon. The principles contained ip the report, Mr. Quincy considered as lhathsome and dis-5 cpnstitijitian, He saidhfe didsnpposefiY j j l ll'e jFibps'e oj Rapre&efttativel, but ftporl tftj pressed his opin . w , on any such proposition j f»d. » M ' * * sl‘J , T / f tbe > % aM s re.fca»ihj«M jiii* of ^ceJysV % r e n p U ^ a s ^ i f . Uu 4 L t . . . fc. « » . W Ib» fn admit that If in aw language, as. our embargo %vored the true at. of thd gomrnijrem. it'ereth decide «« 1 , thy-WuM h a v e t e w e a n o e w q d ^ ^ terests of tftht nafcican On this principle he atmpsphere afomid us did not exist; that wa^ fufcjon would have perjpittpid eyen#, ppijtittfi conceived the present course of policy to be a ter shook! riot 8ow^ that hfedvy btotlies.should ex# o n the SUfeject f The^^nhetoefe the disgraceful submission to the orders and de- notfbll-K^6 spo'ko witoto&lfc <tofetence,hovV- southern states, had'a\ shrttes of iwtobiflbv creSsof tire belligerent powers; on this, prin- ever.JfecLse IreBMWtbl Mg * ‘ ' ciple he thought the. einbargo an abandon- some gentlettifen meat of our rights upder pretence Of resisting thoriiy)— he should suftpode,;.that} neverthe- erft|^#cQaJi:npf rqal% tliftiin^drtanlftofit. them. Hw tejpfced t e r e t e imdftfetoteototc- hessjfer wouf| still ciwfoiiaie ; thiit the Hdd- A # S ^ w h h : p e o p l e p|the-e^terp s|4«s fel ^ tion of this resQlutioii as the jbarbihger of a soii, Delaware' *r- wfexili flow fo the*. rdfodon (ocofoojfnce.'- spacefill to the m u o n ; to ti^ ‘ resSution newdayvas thcprecupsor of wser me^ures. * sea 1 hnd^^g^vity silflfomhtton tiorf W ; ? p . ^ t o der discussion, hoivevek he eertainly did hot Mr> % fecy said he would here close the to % c e a t r e ,, .It -WOuild be just as absdrd and, jafenj t|ip easiest; periods^ ■ ■ »' . ' * ' a L 7 A. «»n f. 1 ■>,!<•• n k U w -l» A A',£T<^I1 / r \ H 9 1« «r, t i n o n l A 1n i u f e . f. . n l . rere I .1. m A. a am *V m re rtltlre i\hf'n 1 m « 1U tH-l«Aa lain' 1e'«q r A Mrext a rere3 J '!.. _ ;.l: ? ... L #•! • M * ,1* 1 ' 4 observations which he had to offefon this rcso- foolish and; impracticable fftr this hftiise support, and'in wlpch thq p^ular fecjihi: ftad to atle.mftt.. 4 d the.'people'of Mfetov,^h;sniKf 5 EnglWd^^from deftqjfeding qntfee \ w . ,a Thete jVal, Jfr.'Quinqy feinfo’ke^i» habit y ho]%Stind^iiUeiesft weire thfcte. reason whlhh had gi^at t fiect ihrelfoto^ife thif the i'e- The very sititutiop o f }he 'couritiy, proHibitpd Stbject, in the part of wjutfei. letldng* tliis iheasnrc/ They h|d; 5§0 iftU^ o f sea*« he lived j .ftQd''4h'j|t-iyasj .fee. V 4 *ree m r e > r m A . kre j3k -ree. k w A r . I rere.All . a . - — 1 —— T ~ * — - re I 'a nil'll V 11 I a^ • 9Ti% • m re. » ■ a reree.e r 4 r ~e. * r re rr ee ZL i _ . _ liness attribute the chaia^et&r Which-he attached to' «. . , the report itself. I* was a rate of the house l«l?%weveitnolth3tthe[rfMeiples of ttere. he satd, dm any leiolatioo reported by a « * . . “ <««> » « « 9 »Bf « wna»«i . W e it not rmttee,n.is to be taken altogeWef- Independe ‘haM ile tot of the reamim; of the cbtnjtiteee t o batgptravspeciScallyrecomniendedm there- - Whtcbthe esolution vras predicated.. Every pb'.t._ Itto u d i e necessary tosay some % r geatleman m the house then, had a right to'' so ;a * support the resolutrou o n his\* own grotnd,.and ^Uie upon tbs subj . , ,. _ < -• .-■ .* • -vy *- 1 “ - - • KfJaererer. ft/Ti. n . r e « „ 1 .1 S e . « « n r ) t« , h i m A t l l h » ^..rere*re.re.n<ere • . « reMrerereoAMot..r •% .11, „ « ? .* « r > » W «iV - • J j ^ p ^ p t l C f C ! Iftl .•Ipdles’afid Eh¥o|>c| - . , 3, had pQt may cbto possible with that number to pfe? ception that it - cquld h aye; produc#xaji'e iitjijQ seits, th e idea that this ennbargp was tobe ro* vent tt|eratfrdto |;<)itxg oti 4 Ke.;QCtw,'Wfien--feh ;liave touehtd moved had nou been universal, It hacL not pppuiar heniitnent. Issglipst yoil j ftndT tell suhjcctLif fle had not h # d p ^ l|d s been the opinion so much that the eiiibargb ybi* f| w^I.-hd 6^qstT<>iji''sp6fe>.1^.-it'ibefeQtftt of thfoh'aryest InGn v.’otxldbc removed* as that it had been at that, thistirionient; Ask youv offibers c f the teve- of it:. Did ^eadetnj ^ moment actually removed. He had thought- nbe if insorae of* oftr seapotu ,to\dis, property sunipUpn wvheat ift’ that there was an uaiveVsal sentirrieftt that the seized by them, has mof been 'sOW ISr three hr dependencies tyas ’^jcsl; eiftbafgo,could notie Continued ; andUe had foiftper cent only of its value ? I state Cbm^ and fift^ mlljipps o f bushels, sjdijlid dr,y_nt»t oplnionlrofo. nd rafrdw sonrras, a t e . . .. ‘ . l . L , . * ., -terms*ol the lesoltition, whtcli-«mtamedeitwo. w®1® conversations of men o f various fefest, Mr. Quittcy said be shbald be asxed Did. : to thqi«*s _ an assertion and-a pledge. The as-, pojiticHl Opinions. vlJnder this' impression' .wheto^to thatlove of order said! tp chaTto’*. wlitch an'‘^^'!iro9sltfopt|0li of j 5 ,| jnHlitmd scrtwnwah that-tli«oik[c^Mid edi#-Of Great (said he) I canae to th6 city, f ljow | e a f the;, tev^e the Nfor-^iglahd states ? t ie.said they oEJinshels. of \vheat wastiecdssaiT,^^ olald -b| JBntam weiecuntiaiv to the rights tousVtate-tote fltodmpi^rwu.. * ^ tlipt^ It Wft$. .Oacrced^y her*htiph'tiortroj! tnenoan nation. I ue mledpe wasDliav the na47' ^ d ana called upon to ddfty the cW ^ot stiflicient for ^atlettirn on thi§ floor to re- Of.out1 seyen n-djfibn&jbf:fcus!v€idas iad tofo to tmp would not submit toiheftu WiCfe re- dtoce-ofmysehses, to#npak^what»I havp present'those jthtoughthat .......................... y ‘ r ' H * - - ^ ■ cpect to the w e , fan, could there beany ques- heard and lelt, 1 amirid that the embargo turn on this floor thatfeose ^ ^ cq n tm ^ as relates o New- ryto tUv o g h ts# when ^ the plglabd, but tlmt !t m febe continued for an powers wbShafelssVied them, did notprfetedd hnfemittd tune; say for six fjom h sj to vindicate them;, on -the ground of right ? *?**& * ilbVcl N\ They had'imverpt^tote f e 4 h c y l w c r f e fate -CarOlma^ays be^ootd father have a three contrary to th^ ngfet d f the American people, |eacapib|rgo tfe/n war y another gentleman Thdp? powtos t'eoiprot^lly pfeced theii;. jhstifi- cfationpn ttfeegfeaf.priftciple. o l necessity i and y arS° ^told1^ ’'' , I 1 C,VllH£ll. Rlrre^ t ■.* atlopted Iv a.st-;v that, it was a solemn <? tbe nation, not to be, redeemed in any way,than by -a te+dl ab indonment of the tn of measuics now pui&u?d by, the ad- stm.tion —wAdopt this lesalutionf saicl^he,. Alit subraissior> which has disgraced this ntiy foi elei ep raoatlis, and brought' it to the brink of destiaction* will be ’ dorte avvay ctohhTj vvheinf^^hb*'^ftommerce «^ t|vejlarA such a laW as thi? o s the’ morst -woftbiess or bary Statcf and the^ Biacjt Sep prolligatfc partof the cpmmuaity they could Jier ? notYop aiay great length of time iAclentiFy tflese iput,. M r f p ^ } a c f ssu<t .re.ttre.-a . . . . -.L ^..re- tAre.-,.*re.. »..*> of |h? 8 'i^eaitii^;jtm(lt“ ^ ^ ^ 'ou)*resfeiN^ hfSK«fl ge ntlemen, tp recollect, yyiiat w^ indmdualr y itlr ccmmori doubted -Whether gentlemen ers when -He they us he hoped that the ctu­ be taken off tfll the orders repealedr Good Heayens.X ’Utirkijtood what werei the terppfetions which lpst by it, , frad.lest: 4f0a3yjmi prsF cetd cxiaedjStiong aSi vWetc their predilections for on our wke&.* 4 fapUaV^tW^ \* • ^ • V 1 rel v « -+■£_. «_ JiLi . » • . ' L?/ •* * ' r\ w <* ifer tins’system, wocid think ft possiljidc.to pefsist op bfo* imports and esppi;to. in it. Ox'.the mai'gin of the oceain Were ships [jvir. Quincy here mad,e 4 itateaigtit' goiil^ . lyiiig Ihacled with - produce \ afed \yhen the fo ftliewthat, in additlcti tp (fee profit losf.^H s, of thit iTautea mod f Are question was pet ween tfefc total diestriiction of outf -fy|»port.siia 4 . exports, 4 Wab'-wfts alto lost wTtli that ittsanity which1 the Al- their owners and tlto violation of a law which by tbe inactivity of. our .sliipping, eQmf^ | 7 their nripisters in phis city would countersign w^uouncu . ^ i this de#r&tioiiv' 'tp 4 tfydge' _ Wa^disiLihe- A ^ m e me Wpfted .States wei^d hot ftubmif to them. Mr. tJlcy touche Quincy ashed what Was ’tod *Wb®t by -tfeq pledge, man submits to the order: aiiotherfWhen he'4oes tk ------ ^ .. . - , . , - - - m *- etWieorBm'andhi -arid when he ontftft to ocean,# geeple to whom commerce was the patnousni wjll caity mto force smch a law as Embargo, 1 lie ampunfc q f these diree itema thitt which the orter, cfecree'or edict prafuWts. dtoresfi iiiTieritance ffdra their ancestors and this* ft induces men to make any comtndn Quirtcy€^]matc 4 at#.Bout 3 %p®j)&a>}, Mebeici:dp‘enriomeiiuamiGwlm’lwtoa'tttod.to the choicest profeisfe, to their posterity, to be Sacrifice, but it never requires a i«an to extend Notless than near -30 millions-absolutely! 7, 7 . 7 , * lire. . ' : 7 . D r o h ii hc ln t e f ! fprtMl i fn I i p f o f f t o n a h n . n n f f n r n UlM-re.ir.re.w 4 k n *Mn. A I v l j i M l f t n k a \ * ' ' this leading principle. ; Tne pledge not to sub- .jfrtit theh was, that would not clo:tiiat]vvhich tvnth the cthcM h pUmitel States feislied thaf !*e ^ travelled i®7Massachusetts and\ ?een temptation is too great to be re-sisted. ^nd copfsc* : Airtb« product of. the _ t , **<rv fl, r A al n»««nn#\>n ^iffnnln n n T. Un/1 |U/M Un«; AI 1 ♦ /, ' ' I • *.V .i‘-* .l..ulre relrerere A Z rere M<4tren9l'n«* Are*TlLre,U » l Mrel « r e J fLL’ire. rerei. : _.). J - J. ■ Lz _rel- thrv v^ould n o n i^e ttore or my wJret u else. This was notpply 11 tobnih&lop -to the, orders of tho^e govern merits, but he said it was an act 6 f slavish supereregittionL Ft was doing What they required aiid mdre than they, required., It was not only l’efiislrig to exet-msethat righf , . , . , _ . . . . , , - ■ - A . whtoh they corcrntnM- us- to resign, hfit it was tl011as he has coHectcd.oii his passage he gives absei:vccU in .relation to this law— the constilu- it their order.——*. to tbe bouse. I suppose he found that salt, tfopal- difildidty.'- Hq said he knte# tfeaf he • i . . .« * i ATir^f Itfpcf TnAtfi rijm vxrpfVs* ;lnhtwr ' relreM.^I.I' 1 ,^-. f?•»/» r*r\,ndrB Air* liwi'iha lio/i son to Stackbridge, from Berkshire to Boston, much Co say that you catinot enbTce fopr lavv herhaps; froiri i&mtoinn, frp#County .court against tficrau 7 to county court,ahd such species, of informa- 4 There vras aVsotber dimculty,' Mr- abandcsnmg alEoar rights at — t ,■■ r~v Did we ej.eicise'iSar rights, unde? the etnbar- ^ f ,dearer> go, notwitbsttoditsg the order's and decrees of be5 V^01f-7!iUt-elf t anfl-^*\es^ft'c?1®f'fer — I- rarrce and Gi#at»Bri?aii>'? Nu-: we co-operd- 75ftlaH ^ ? r9 w5# • -e ,r® ^ ^ ted With thei4, a,nfe because they said v?e-should Chfet cf .the embargo we?e not trade with eac?h other, We said vve vybuld fe^repi^ftented. Has my *w not ttaae ? t afii This was submissianynot on- through the cities op o'ftr #hpuhl be told that the court's o f justice had fttlded their sanctiori to itl' CertSThly no i| 4 n. whft of feo value, unless j t cdftld beexported qri e^fchanged fp¥ oifee|. cmiSwoBitie^i #p|>pxe this Embargo was continued fo? tWe y4i?s pt4 fopi5 yeato y 4 t<l n0t g^l1e'm#heljeto 'ihnt felt annual produce woiiip be |bst ? ./They cdulti not lrttoufacthte all tfe&ir* * surpfus^cctfbn', hr chW Cf stooait sfirpluxtol^cto* 'it \ n^mai'kefe ana if ^ orth hotbing^Toa . ly^assmgfeu}' haatibvwhicliv strove t o * ifejure- us, htorputting,. thehv-foat on our- beck, Th^ °to fePt pf France Was to oppress Great-Britain, foAfeprive feertof ail commerce, to destroy' her TetourCes ’# vptedfel8?w.&Sid'wfa# disf w-fe'de ? Fr^B^i&iTOg b'eiiiststhld- to-do it, we* co-operated dur ships ^OtttoX^y wharves ?. Has he, seep, law aftd^nother thing to deckle it before th6 df tSe ^rice '«T labor fo# OUT sttfe^to Phto thronged, afetodmhedf. Has people.' He appealed to # states- that*which *prbfitet|trmt; . r., ’ he heaVd/the-mcich^to tofl ° f his eiribarrass- mai,.vhi 4 lher what- cphtravcned\ tile rights o£ . There Waj^xiti.ther reasdii, Mr. ^mncyoto ihents ? Has he heard the merchant Whose, {he great feass of the citizens; i#mfged their seii^d/ wftife .xfltteXqrifeit&'a ^rtot 9 ^ 1 ‘qttitinto4 ’capitakisin stock,Say, t l r ' ■'*- -• - . rej . u i r e detention the cleiucncy wito*Her,- an(F (i# all-we could fo upite our- \Lethgr fee should or should hot stop pay- tionaiecftstiUilioria! authority, aM ndt to res^ pec'utiai Imfd^iito witliivhrdtttlie metoumlmto tohei whk.th«-«»>ntteehiat:.poWem.' 'hte.tdt& l^ s lie enquired’of tfebse iftdufttridUs upon tonstructTou, : unless that cotistfuOtion irpon them. Theiewasjnof a getrtlemdn Wlto '• the.adrninistririoii now oh their^bwk ground; mdivitiualsnyhothe day before the embargo werb sofitdtdHtofele that it cOriUl npt' idtnit of had spoken 6n this tobject who faad nto:*!^ he did^nat m t o h 'to COriStderHveni a s 'l i v i n g a/ ^ •morair rails frti». Ktt<dn£«« (XnV tlt»«/ii 9 /l WO-!*** '*<n/La »ltA' ih s i ♦hi«'iMp«nm>*«!iie to u ln d iiiti, Jiik'ftiimi paf-iiality' eklicr oh one- side or 4lm otberi T«M the que&toA p®w .08 4 related.to-Gpeat Britaiov— ShKe attempted - to prohibit ah-coin- toerce witti lH‘ahi'.fe,in doing whiGh she had two' . Ol^eetdin view* j1 the ©ne waS'to tahefa^Ay the |.,; tofomc.rce'ofiTi'a^cc^ pflotfttsew dto had more , calls for , business than they had dispute* What \was tfee tonsti*toctto» in this tliit this measme was felt hto|»ari| ^ hands or time to efoploy on It, and who are., case ? Why,by: coristtoction (said he)‘you; de- .of the country8 as m afty othdr! \He toid hd. ‘ n»w doitdeiTijned\ to toihimssive.emple^ from rive froira'the cdpstituticn a power such as ne- would xn^kea single comparative Satei&cr>t of * rifeh ihen ? [Here Mr/ Quirtcey enutoiefated ver was eXercift#in any country* Which it uft-, tbe t ituatipn o f the two largest state^ iAeach . othci4 species of distress w'hidh were nbtdis# oqi^ifte^in fee.faraailft'©! tegi»latto|tr..' Qy con/ portion of the UmonL-lVlassaehuaeiis dricdf-heard by the reporter.) JjJe siid there. structjoiiiVunder pgrm t of fbW^r f6 tognlate giula , and lie did it only^tophew Ihe^ifior-F vvaspothiiig highly tolored iii this picture : commei*c^8aktel#a power tot onl^ to pro- eucc ofetnbaFmsmefit mtttfcone feo&ent amronasfr thevtobiecls.of Bonaparte t eveif the life y hibit it indefimteiy, but you put the power of- dtliu i»G: tn I n w when it whs^hfewn to thtopebnlk- of Mas the other, and prlficipai object was, the? commerce offebutoal nations

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